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| 26th Apr 10 | 19:53:14 | Matthew Fowler | Gday Martyn, I'm sorry I did not see your message until now and that's thanks to Dad's Email drawing my attention to it. I am in a better position to respond now with a whole lot of information on my Penrose FitzGerald cousins via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=penrose+fitzgerald&go=Go Cork Begg Island or Corkbeg became the Seat of the Uniacke Penrose FitzGerald family from Sir Garrett FitzGerald Knt of Lisquinlan & his son Sir Robert FitzGerald Knt of Lisquinlan & Corkbeg a name that has been passed down in my maternal FitzGerald family from Sir Robert Tynte to my 5th Great Uncle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Uniacke_Fitzgerald & onto my maternal Grandfather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mifren#Ahnentafel_Chart_for_Robert_Fitzgerald_BOURNE & is my own middle name ... is there anything you'd like to learn I may be able to help research? |
| 7th Mar 10 | 10:39:38 | Matthew Fowler | Today I've just researched from, '"Not officially recognised by the British, the Wexford army leaders and their men, with their accompanying women and children, were routed on Vinegar Hill following a fierce, prolonged cannonade. They paid a fearful price for ignoring the military advice of the Wicklow Colonel, Joseph Holt. Their defeat occurred on the 21st June 1798. The thick fog, which had initially helped the survivors' escape to the sanctuary of Joseph's Wicklow army in Glenmalure, caused the separation from the main escaping body of the United Irish remnant led by the excommunicated Father John Murphy, from Boolavogue. He and the excommunicated Father Michael Murphy of Ballycanew had previously led their congregations to victory in the Battle of Oulart Hill against the North Cork Militia on May 27. It was this militia who introduced the torture of pitch-capping to County Wexford (History of the Irish Rebellion of 1798, Philip Harwood, 1844)." http://www.joseph-holt.org/ http://www.google.com.au/search?q=north+cork+militia&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&redir_esc=&ei=M9OSS9uiDoWCsgPjtu38Aw As you can see from my bros' & my unique genetic historic & heritage position of being the 4xGreat Grandson of both Co Wicklow 1798 United Irish General Joseph Holt & infamous Co Tipperary High Sheriff Col Sir Thomas Judkin-FitzGerald 1st Bt of Lisheen. Note his elder brother "Colonel Robert "Descended from the Munster Desmond FitzGerald Knights of Glin and Kerry, through Sir Garrett FitzGerald of Lisquinlan and Sir Robert Tynte of Youghal and Ballycrenane. His younger brother was infamous 1798 United Irish Rebellion Tipperary High Sheriff Col Sir Thomas Judkin-Fitzgerald Baronets and descendants included the Sir Robert Uniacke-Penrose-Fitzgerald, 1st Baronet of Corkbeg and Lisquinlan." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Uniacke_Fitzgerald " Uniacke-FitzGerald was among the last surviving Members of the Parliament of Ireland, where he represented Cork County with his cousin Henry Boyle, 3rd Earl of Shannon from 1798. After the Act of Union in 1801 he represented Cork County in the new Parliament of the United Kingdom until 24 October 1806." Thus his & my cousin a century later, "Sir R.U.P. Fitzgerald Bart:M.P.D.L.J.P. was appointed to the Hon: Colonelcy of the battalion on 8th March 1899." http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/nth_cork.htm A Short History of 9th Battalion The King�s Royal Rifle Corps. (Formerly the North Cork Militia). Updated 18 Sep 1999 Transcribed from public records by Kieran and posted here with his kind permission. "The Anglo-Norman FitzGerald family a sub-branch of the mighty Desmond Geraldines that owned Corkbeg and Lisquinlan from at least the lifetime of Garrett Fitzgerald of Lisquinlan and Corkbeg married into and ownership transferred to Col Robert Uniacke who married Helena FitzGerald and assumed the name and arms of the FitzGeralds by the Will of Garrett FitzGerald's son, his maternal Uncle Robert FitzGerald. Col Robert Uniacke FitzGerald then Willed his Corkbeg and Lisquinlan Estates to his nephew Col Robert Uniacke-FitzGerald who built a Great House replacing the older House by the ruins of the castle keephouse built by the Condons. Corkbeg and Lisquin estates were willed finally to Sir Robert Uniacke-Penrose-FitzGerald 1st Bt of Corkbeg and Lisquinlan MP Cambridge who died without issue." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitegate,_County_Cork "Imokilly Blue Horse 1779 Colonel Robert Uniack Fitzgerald Major Thomas FitzgGerald Captain Travers Lieutenant Uniack Cornet - ?? Chaplain Edward Hardwood Secretary John Hanning Uniform: Blue, faced red." http://www.from-ireland.net/history/munstervoluns.htm This page is part of an Irish genealogy web site called 'From Ireland' � Jane Lyons, Dublin, Ireland. Irish Genealogy Research Services Reprint of the Munster Volunteer Registry 1782, With notes Transcribed by Robert Day, f.S.A. President, presented as a lecture to the Cork Historial & Archaeological Society Published in the Journal of the Cork Historical and Archaeological Society 1894, Vol. II See also Margaret Grogan's http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judkin-Fitzgerald_Baronets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Judkin-Fitzgerald_Baronets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Uniacke_Fitzgerald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Robert_Uniacke_Fitzgerald' |
| 23rd Feb 10 | 06:59:01 | Martyn Hodgson | I have a leather-bound edition of Hereward the Wake, with a printed bookplate of Robert Uniacke Penrose Fitzgerald of Cork Begg Island. The book has a written inscription "Penrose Fitzgerald from C Kingsley" I would very much value anybody's comment on this connection. |
| 14th Sep 08 | 12:44:13 | Matthew Fowler | I've been learning more about my paternal 4xgreat grandfather 1798 United Irish General Joseph Holt's life & times. It amazes me how his apparent enemy, my maternal 4xgreat grandfather Colonel Sir Thomas Judkin-FitzGerald 1st Bt of Lisheen of Tipperary and infamous High Sheriff of Tipperary during the 1798 United Irish Rebellion met with him in the Birmingham Tower of Dublin Castle. Bank of Ireland Peter La Touche paid for Joseph Holt's family 1799-1800 passage on board the Minerva. His cousin Robert La Touche of Harristown was son of John La Touche Esq. of Harristown, co. Kildare M.P. m1763 Gertrude Uniacke FitzGerald (elder 1/2 sister of Sir Thomas Judkin-FitzGerald above thus my 5x Great Aunt & Uncle) all the while my other 4xgreat grandfather Walter Bourne Esq of Taney Hill, Dundrum, was Clerk of the Crown Court of Queen's Bench. I have excitedly just previously discovered that a retired Canadian Naval Captain Uniacke-Penrose-FitzGerald is my mother's 5th cousin and thus learned lots more about our Anglo-Irish Ascendency Ancestry. [As you may be aware beginning in King William III's reign, after James II abdicated, forced through Parliament were a series of Acts, known as the Penal Laws, suppressing Irish Catholics and having the effect of maintaining the ascendancy of the Protestant class, which was only one quarter of the population. His reign marked the beginning of the transition from the personal rule of the Stuarts to the more Parliament-centered rule of the House of Hanover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England] |
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